TAPAC Plenary -Second Meeting 2009
Final Summary Record
Terminal Attachment Program Advisory Committee Meeting
Thursday, November 26, 2009, 13:30-17:00
Certification and Engineering Bureau
1.1 Officials and Interested Parties
|Amy Oke||Industry Canada|
|Magdoly Rondonl||Industry Canada|
|Paul Van Hoof||Industry Canada|
|Jacquelynn Greening||Industry Canada|
|Lan Xie||Industry Canada|
|Keith Richardson||RTS Inc.|
|Gary Schlecter*||Sask Tel.|
|Stuart Beck||NEMKO Canada (User)||P||A||P|
|Sid Tarrabain||TELUS (Carrier)||A||A||A|
|David Dulmage||SCC (User)||A||P||P|
|Robert Morse||EFC (Manufacturer)||A||P*||P*|
|Stan Runge*||MTS (Carrier)||A||A||P*|
|Redouane Zidane*||Bell Canada (Carrier)||P*||P*||P*|
|John Pitt*||Aliant (Carrier)||P*||P*||P*|
|Tom Smith*||NTS (User)||P*||A||P*|
|Philip Taffinder||Alcatel-Lucent (Manufacturer)||P*||A||P*|
* - by teleconference
P - Present
A - Absent
|Type of Membership||Maximum||Actual|
|Facilities-based Carrier (including CLECs)||5||5|
|Manufacturers and Suppliers||5||2|
|User Groups (including Conformity Assessment Bodies, reseller and accreditation organizations)||5||3|
2. Review of Proposed Agenda
- The proposed agenda (TAPAC-2009-11-002) was approved with changes:
- Renamed Section 8, Other Business, to Business
- Moved old item 8.3, Industry Advisories, to item 7.5
- Added new item 8.3 - VDSL2 UPBO proposal
- Added new item 8.4 - Draft Market Surveillance Procedure
3. Review of the Summary Record of Last Meeting (May 21, 2009)
- The Summary Record of the May 27, 2010 meeting (TAPAC-2011-11-001) was approved with the
- The Summary Record of the May 21, 2009 meeting (TAPAC-2009-11-001) was approved as written.
4. Status of Action Items
|No.||Action Item Summary|
The TAPAC Secretariat to provide a clarification to the term “give effect” of section 15.1 of the Telecommunications Act.
This action item refers to the proposal made in contribution TAPAC-2009-05-003 to remove references to the CRTC from the TAPAC Terms of Reference. According to section 15.1 of the Telecommunications Act, the CRTC is consulted by the Minister of Industry and is required to give effect (put into force) to the technical standards. The Act would need to be amended before the Terms of Reference, therefore the contribution was withdrawn. Item closed
The TAPAC Secretariat to send contribution TAPAC-2009-05-004 to TAPAC members for a 30 day comment period followed by a letter ballot.
In July 2009, the contribution was posted for comments and then sent for letter ballot. No negative comments were received. The changes proposed in this contribution will be published in the next issue of CS–03, Part I. Item closed.
The TAPAC Secretariat to provide TAPAC members with the proposed text of the MRA ETR for comments.
The MRA on equivalency of technical requirements ( ETR) text was provided to the members in the summer of 2009. There were no negative comments. IndustryCanada will report to APEC TEL that the Canadian government and industry endorse the MRA ETR text. Item closed.
5. Membership Review
- The TAPAC Secretariat noted that TELUS has been absent for three consecutive
|File||Types of Contributions|
|TAPAC-2009-11-001||Draft Summary Record May 21 2009v4|
|TAPAC-2009-11-002||Proposed Agenda for Nov 26 2009|
|TAPAC-2009-11-003||Update to Methods of Measurements for CS–03 Part I|
|TAPAC-2009-11-004R1||Amendment to DC-01|
|TAPAC-2009-11-005||Bell Industry Advisory BIA-1t|
|TAPAC-2009-11-006||Bell Aliant Industry Advisory BIA-1t|
|TAPAC-2009-11-007||Bell Proposal-VDSL2 UPBO Enablement
Unbundled Loops - Addition to CS–03 Part VIII
|TAPAC-2009-11-008||Draft Market Surveillance Procedure|
- E. Guevara (Industry Canada) reported that the TIA TR-41committee: User Premises Telecommunications Requirements, held a teleconference the week of August 10, 2009 and a face-to-face meeting the week of November 9, 2009.
- In August 2009, TIA TR-41.9 sub-committee: Technical and Administrative Regulatory Requirements, published TIA-968B: Technical Criteria for Terminal Equipment to Prevent Harm to the Telephone Network, Requirements for Connection of Terminal Equipment to Telephone Network and it was passed to ACTA for adoption.
- In November 2009, the TR-41.9 sub-committee agreed to publish an Errata Sheet to correct the SHDSL formula which was incorrectly incorporated in TIA-968-B, and forward to the ACTA for publication.
- The TR 41.9 sub-committee agreed to begin work on ANSI-31-D Test Methods for TIA- 968 Requirements to accompany 968B. ANSI-31-D will include VDSL/VDSL2 test methods.
- The TR-41.9 sub-committee agreed to send a letter to ANSI regarding a request to review and update the ANSI TCB Evaluation Form for Accreditation Scope C to align with TIA-968-B.
- The next TR-41 meeting will be held in February 2010.
- E. Guevara reported that the ACTA had a meeting by teleconference on June 4, 2009, and a face-to-face meeting on September 10, 2009.
- On July 15, 2009, the fee for processing Telephone Terminal Equipment (TTE) information submitted for inclusion in the Part 68 database increased from US$425 to US$525.
- The ACTA posted TIA-968-B on August 21, 2009; no negative comments were received and TIA-968-B was adopted on September 22, 2009.
- The next meeting will be held by teleconference on December 3, 2009.
7.2 ISO SCC Activities Review
- D. Dulmage (SCC) provided a report on SCC activities (Note: Report is available on TAPAC Workspace at: http://ic.gc.ca/TAPAC).
7.3 CRTC Activities
- P. Chau read the report on CRTC activities provided by J. Ndirangu (Note: Report is available on TAPAC Workspace at: http://ic.gc.ca/TAPAC).
7.4 TAPAC Bulletins
- E. Guevara reported that two TAPAC bulletins were issued since the last meeting:
- TAPAC Bulletin 2009-02: Canada Gazette Notice No. SMSE-002-09 – DC-01, Issue 3, and
- TAPAC Bulletin 2009-03: Canada Gazette Notice No. SMSE-008-09 – CS–03, Part VIII, Amendment 4.
7.5 Telephone Companies Industry Advisories
- The 9-1-1 PERS terminal-to-network interface (BID-0013 version 12) was disclosed by Bell Canada and Bell Aliant.
- Telus and SaskTel posted similar disclosures on their websites after this meeting.
7.6 International Activities
7.6.1 APEC TEL 40 - MRA Task Force
- P. Chau (Industry Canada) gave the following report:
- The MRA task force met on September 24-25, 2009.
- The MRA task force reviewed and finalized the text of the MRA on Equivalence of Technical Requirements (MRA-ETR).
- The task force agreed to add market surveillance as a standing agenda item.
- To celebrate the 10th anniversary of the APEC TEL MRA on conformity assessment the task force will prepare an article to be published in a technical journal.
- Highlights of Canadian bi-laterals:
- China - An MRA with China at this time will be possible only for the Network
Access Licence (NAL) certificate, i.e. for terminal equipment (not radio).
Industry Canada to send a letter requesting that China and Canada officially start negotiations to implement Phase I of the
MRA for mutual recognition of test labs
and their test reports towards the NAL certificate.
- Vietnam - There is agreement at senior level to proceed with negotiations for Phase I implementation. Next step is to exchange e-mails at working level and study each others’ regulatory system. Industry Canada will then send a request to initiate Phase I negotiations.
- Chile - SubTel (the regulator) is in the process of adding some technical regulations that will fall under Phase I of the MRA. SubTel is also reviewing draft letters of exchange proposed by Industry Canada.
- China - An MRA with China at this time will be possible only for the Network Access Licence (NAL) certificate, i.e. for terminal equipment (not radio). Industry Canada to send a letter requesting that China and Canada officially start negotiations to implement Phase I of the MRA for mutual recognition of test labs
- The CITEL MRA working group met on September 30, 2009.
- P. Chau provided the following CITEL
- Mexico is still not ready to implement the MRA although some tri-lateral talks with Canada and the US are scheduled.
- Two meetings ago, Brazil announced they are ready to implement the MRA for EMC. No further update was given at this meeting.
- A proposal from Canada for Market Surveillance collaboration was discussed at this meeting. A short questionnaire to assess the interest for such collaboration will be sent to CITEL member states
8.1 Update to Methods of Measurements for CS–03, Part I (TAPAC-2009-11-003)
- P. Van Hoof (Industry Canada) reported that the methods of measurement of CS–03, PartI, have been updated.
- Ten methods of measurements for terminal equipment were improved and the following two new methods were added:
- Verification that the signal power level transmitted to the PSTN is properly limited (Section 22.214.171.124 - Limitations on Internal Signal Sources Primarily Intended for Network Control Signalling - Data Circuit TE)
- Verification that the DC conditions provided by the terminal equipment meet the limits for the loop conditions that the TE has to meet (Section 126.96.36.199 - Through Transmission - DC Conditions)
- Ten new test circuit diagrams were included, three modified and two deleted.
- The following three differences between CS–03 and the equivalent
US documents need to be resolved:
- Hazardous Voltage Limitations - Type I and II E&M Leads. The Methods of Measurements in sections 188.8.131.52 and 184.108.40.206 of CS–03 ask to measure AC/DC voltage to ground using both a 20kΩ resistor (R1) and a 5kΩ resistor (R2). TSB-31-C (Section 8.2) has no measurement requirements through R2.
- Ringing Source Limitations. TIA-968-B (section 220.127.116.11) specifies that ringing source limitations requirements apply for all interfaces, unlike CS–03 (section2.3.9) that makes an exception for Class A, OPS interfaces.
- Failure Modes Resulting from the Application of Type “A” Telephone Line Surges. The restriction on tie trunk interfaces indicated in CS–03 (section 18.104.22.168)is not in TIA-968-B (section 22.214.171.124).
8.2 Amendment to DC-01, Issue 4 (TAPAC-2009-11-004R1)
- E. Guevara presented the changes in DC-01, Issue 4.
- K. Richardson and S. Beck recommended specific improvements to DC-01, Issue 4.
8.3 Bell Proposal - VDSL2 UPBO Enablement Mandatory for Unbundled Loops - Addition to CS–03 Part VIII (TAPAC-2009-11-007)
- R. Zidane (Bell Canada) presented the Bell proposal to add mandatory enablement of VDSL2 UPBO for unbundled loop implementation to CS–03 Part VIII in order to eliminate crosstalk from short loops into longer loops.
8.4 Draft Market Surveillance Procedure (TAPAC-2009-11-008)
- P. Chau provided an overview of the internal market surveillance procedure.
9.0 Next Meeting
- The next TAPAC meeting will be held at the CRTC facilities in Hull, Quebec on Thursday, May 20, 2010. The subsequent TAPAC meeting will be held at the Standards Council of Canada in Ottawa, Ontario on Thursday, November 25, 2010.
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